Projects and how to`s

Blue G., I myself don't mean to scare any new members off from posting their "own" projects or how-to's. I'm not sure to what extent Heather was saying about projects that aren't all that. In my own words, things like how to use hair spray; that isn't crafty. Who doesn't know how to use hair spray? And yeah there's post about that, believe it or not and that's the type of thing I was referring to. But like myself and others here I'm sure, try not to be so self conscience about what people think or say. A lot of crafts here aren't original, which some are versions, but that doesn't mean it's not of some interest to everyone here. Like anywhere in life, you're gonna have people who don't like what you do, but never mind that, show off what you're proud of something that you made regardless of that fact. I think the majority of us here will like whatever it is you post.
BTW, your knitted scarf is not basic (which I think is pretty), not everyone knows how to knit.

See there you go, we all support one another on here.

Creativemind- as I said earlier, you wouldn't believe how some simple things (e.g. apply nail base, boil and egg, even maybe use hairspray properly) are not known. Then the person gets embarrassed and never takes the next steps (I'm looking at it from a basic cooking standpoint, but craft and beauty are the same).

We might think 'who can't use hairspray??' but a pre-teen, someone who never had long hair before or a guy who has never styled his hair before might come across the tutorial and be really grateful for it.

Videojug has tutorials on really simple things too.

With these though, it is worth the poster saying it is a technique rather than a product. Maybe there should be a technique tutorial category (e.g. 'how to sandpaper wood', 'how to cream butter and sugar' etc').

@ Squizita--maybe so, but the project I'm speaking of in particular just said that they used hairspray for a some type of do and that was it, no instructions not even a picture. So had they added that info, then yeah it would be considered a craft...about the hair do and not the using of hairspray. Besides, instructions for using hairspray is on the can and it's not all that hard, it's pretty much point and spray, unless the person using can't read then that's an whole other issue. Applying nail base, come on now, what's so hard about that? It's another case of just reading simple instructions for a product. Boiling an egg, maybe not really so simple for those who actually don't know how.

So some are techniques that are probably good to know I guess, for the lazy who don't care to read simple instructions that come with the product they are using, but this is all off subject of the thread anyway. I was trying to explain what I meant about non worthy post, and I'm sorry, your points may be valid because that's your opinion, but I still think differently because it's my opinion. So please not go on with this, because I really do hate someone ragging on me about what I think just because they think differently. You've said your piece and I've said mine, now back to the subject of this thread.

Oh, and no tone or attitude, gotta put that out there too just so you know this is not a harsh response. God forbid I get into that discussion again.

Honestly, it's not like they can make money off ripping others' pictures off, and posting them as their own. What benefit could a person gain from doing that here? This is a free website, with free posting rights, and free viewing rights! It's not Etsy, you aren't selling your projects, why would you post fake ones? People are so strange.

I don't know, maybe they like the praise and compliments that it may get. If they want to share something they found elsewhere and post it that's fine, but I don't understand why it's so hard to just give the original creator credit for it. Then again maybe I do, we all do. It's done all the time where people steal others ideas as their own to get credit for it or some kind of recognition. At least when it's done it's not so frickin' obvious, unlike it is here.

http://www.cutoutandkeep.net/projects/old-shirt-new-bag-no-sewing
just thought this was interesting
it really should be a version of a already made how too project? pretty sad no credit was given to the original
looks like someone has a new trick ;)

I think what it probably boils down to is a mixture of self-esteem and praisal issues.

They probably feel inadequate that they don't have any or many creativity skills. They probably see a project they like and think "Wow I wish I could be able to make this!!". It's a bit like impulsive lying, they rip it off and make to give the impression to others that they are cool and can make this awesome project so everyone goes "Wow that's amazing!!"

I mean I know I feel down sometimes, because I wish I could make some of the awesome projects that are on here, all I can do is draw (and not very well really). However that doesn't give you the right to go ripping off others!!!

However, people like that ALWAYS get caught in the end...

@Zina--yeah I saw that one too, but it's there work. They didn't steal images or what have you to post it, they actually made it. And I have seen other projects like that too, I don't think those necessarily have to be posted as a version. Even a how-to would be ok if there is some difference to theirs and they didn't use somebody else' work (the whole point of this thread). As I stated somewhere on the boards before, I have made things similar to what's been posted already but I don't like posting it as version, because one I had made mine way before the other was posted so it's like they just beat me to posting mine, and second it wasn't really a version of theirs, it was something I seen somewhere else (i.e. not this site) and made a version from that. So that is the reason I have a few projects that I haven't posted yet and wasn't going to, but I think I will eventually. So if I remember where I saw it, then I will be referring to that creator who I got the idea from and not from someone here. Just like I did with my just recent TPR album.

@Lolly.Bot--I agree with all you've said, especially about them getting caught. It's inevitable.

wow, if you guys had a problem with something i posted you should have asked me directly, instead of quoting me and assuming i was an some kind of craft snob, because i'm not. i have never said anything to anyone about how i don't like their projects. i would never. it takes guts to post something you created and i respect that. however i hold the right to have my own personal taste and of course i don't like every single project on here. but it's about respect and i have never, will never, say anything mean about the quality of a craft. i've been on this website for about a year now and i guess if you guys actually knew me, you would know that. do i think tutorials about how to make a ponytail (for example) are necessary on co+k? no, sorry i don't. pulling your hair back with an elastic band is not a craft. (hypothetically speaking here don't know if there is actually a ponytail tutorial).but this is a free community based site so you can post whatever you want! when i said that i hate to see the spirit of this site being marred i meant that i would hate to see people dissing on other user's hard work. not that the spirit of the website is ruined by easy or simple projects.
please in the future if you have something to say about me, just send me a message or something. this has made me really sad
blue g - i took a gander at your projects and they are all lovely, not what i meant by "basic" in the least!

I know the creator of the no sew bag has been posting alot of how to's and creation using stock images. I have emailed her about doing this as it is illegal to use these images without permissions

I did make a ponytail creation, but its a hair wrap ponytail tutorial, where it looks like you used your hair as a ponytail band

also, REPORT ALL USERS WHO POST USING STOCK IMAGES, or COPY, STEAL images from other sites. Its the only way to get them to stop

You know what, so long as you are not stealing someone else's project it doesn't really matter because all of this arguing about who said what and bickering about this sort of thing is the stuff that ruins the spirit of this community. Lately we have had lots of these pathetic posts about who said what etc.

What's done is done and what's said is said, let's not upset eachother anymore because this should all be our escape from reality!! Well it is for me anyways.

Let's concentrate on what this topic is about (initially). I think Michelle is right, in order to stop this people all we can do is report it and perhaps talk to the users that are copying and ask them to stop?

thats all we can do. I hope we can stop blaming each other and focus on the craft

I agree and I believe I said the same thing in an earlier post about one's opinion`. Heather, I had to defend what I said earlier too. It's just another case of someone misinterpreting what we actually meant and it got all off topic. It doesn't bother me much, but I do wish I didn't have to explain every little thing I say. Don't know why people think one's opinion has to be such a big deal, everybody has one so why not except it as just that. So I hope you don't think that I had a problem with what you said because I agree with you.
But again, back on topic. Like Michelle said, the most we can do is report it and ask the poster to not use something that isn't theirs or at least bring it to their attention that it's wrong. Though that shouldn't even be necessary because like I pointed out before, you have to agree that the info you're using is your own when posting a project. If they check that box, which you have to do in order to post anything, but still use info that's not theirs then they're not only stealing but lying as well.