UGH! KIDS!

I totally disagree with the "making them take a nap" it might bring around some issues for the kid when it actually IS time for bed. If you use that as a punishment the kid will think it's being punished when it's actually bedtime.

Well I used to be "spanked" as a kid and my sister uses the technique as a last resort on her kids but it's only a light tap on the wrist or bum or something.

The only thing I can say is maybe a sort of "time-out" technique. I watch Supernanny and she's really good with a lot of her techniques.

My kids laugh in the face of time out. Especially my daughter. She likes to think she can do whatever she wants and doesn't HAVE to stay in a chair for time out.

You kids are tough! haha Seriously...what don't they like?

Eachother. lol They don't like anything punishment wise really, but they're smart. They KNOW we want them to be miserable because of a punishment(thus they don't do it again) so they pretend it doesn't bother them or will defy the punishment. No TV? Too bad, I know how to turn it back on. Bedtime? PFFT, I'mma open that bedroom door and walk right on out. No snack? Screw you mom, I can open the fridge on my own!

In the words of Eric Cartman "Whateva! I do what I want!"

maybe you can make them do extra chores as punishment? and stand over them while they are doing it and if they don't do it right they have to do it again? i know it is not fun for you to stand there and watch them but that way they know you are serious. I have to stand behind my daughter sometimes for time out. if she stands up her time starts over again. she must remain sitting in the chair for the full time.
if your kids take snacks when you saw no- just don't buy them or hide them. kinda like how you took away the crayons. just take away all food except what you serve at meals.
also if you want to craft with your kids those foam stickers are GREAT! they can't make a mess, no glue, and they are pretty easily removable from tables and walls if they stick them where they aren't suppose to.
i dunno, your kids sound tough! My friend just took everything away from her son (but he is older, almost 12) she took everything out of his room except school clothes and his bed and she is making him earn back his toys by showing respect and doing chores. if nothing else works you may want to try that!

I might buy them a craft set for Christmas time we can work on together. I did see something with those foam stickers in it. My daughter is just now learning how to make stuff in school using scissors and glue(she's 3 and in early childhood/preschool).

I like how your friend thinks! My daughter though would search high and low for her stuff. She knows we bought Christmas presents and she's been sneaking into our room trying to get them! <.< She fits her name, I swear. Her name is Eris which is the Greek Goddess of Chaos.

Abbyka why not try keeping her in her own room until she behaves? I had to raise my sister till she was 6 and i remember her doing this kind of thing when she was around 3 or 4. she'd take anything i was doing if it didnt involve her. SO i started involving her a bit and soon she stoped. but before that idea came to me i left her in a room for a bit. she was only allowed out to pee or eat. it reallllly got her mad at first she threw a fit screamed for a bit even tried to make a mess (but i was a step aheasd of her by taking every toy but 2 out) after an hour or 2 she stoped and sat to play with the toys she had left. eventually she feel asleep and i brought her stuff back in. When she woke up she said "im sorry sissy please dont put me in there alone agian" we did this for about a week before she understood that the room was punishment and not to steal. but after that week she was back to normal untill she grew up. LOL.

Def. follow through with your punishment...My lil bro & sis tried to do the same thing. You just have to keep closing the door or putting them in time-out. You maybe should watch them and make sure they do it.
Kindof like training a dog...repetition until they figure out you mean business. Better to get it figured out before they turn into little brats no one wants to be around. (my husbands cousin is 7 and the family can't stand her already)

Okay. One. Hitting your child gets you know where at all. Wether it's a tap or not. Trust me my mum did it to me when i was little. And shockingly yes i do remember i resented her right up until i was 9 for it. You will be amazed of what your children remember. It's hard work but you kinda just have to keep on their case. Like when i was 16 which was when i just had my little girl i went to parenting classes because the mother and baby group though it would help. I was adamant that it wouldn't being all like oi im a young mum don't mean i'm god damn stupid okay i helped raise my little sisters but seriously i'm so much more thankful for it now my little one is older i have got so much out of it.


My daughter went through a thing when she was like two of just destroying EVERYTHING =| & surprisingly i did remember what i was tought and as simple as it sounds like "oh thats easy if that was the case we would have said so in the first place" Lol

Like constantly specially if they are at three that just when they understand more. Like when they do wrong strangely you sit them down and tell them not to do it and explain why they are getting told off and why they shouldn't do it. Like dont just have a shout at them for doing wrong explain what they are doing and why its wrong and yeah they do understand surprisingly :/ Like when my daughter has done something wrong now and she turned 3 in august i'll tell her off and explain why i am doing so and she says sorry. Also she just doesn't touch anything that doesn't belong to her. And if she wants to have a look she asks.


I know it sounds like i was explaining some mad as parenting course like brainwashing stuff haha but it wasnt it was just a course to help new parents. (: Like i knew the basics but when we were being prepared for behaviour and the TERRIBLE TWOS :o Hahah it helped so much.

I don't know if this is of any help :p

Actually I did go to a parenting course when my son was little. It was practically mandatory when my ex and I split because the jerk told authorities I wasn't a fit mother because of my medical depression. Which is bull. You won't believe the hoops I had to jump through to prove otherwise...

But yeah, the parenting courses didn't help at all. I've gone down to my daughter's level and tried talking to her about what she does in a calm voice. She's likely to slap you if you do that. She hits my husband a lot too! As for my son talking to him doesn't work because he doesn't have the speech of a five year old. Talking to him is like talking to a baby, he just doesn't understand anything more than he is in trouble. You could explain why he is but he wouldn't understand you. He is more likely to stop but he doesn't understand what he did wrong or why what he did was wrong.

My kids would drive away the Super Nanny if I called her. LOL Just like in that South park episode. Maybe I should call the Dog Whisperer. <.< Mainly it's my daughter, if she's into trouble so is my son. Even though he's older he's her lackey.

Awhhhh noooe. It sounds like you have a right handful.
Yeah cos i was really young when i had my dauhter and because of my past i was involved with social services being a young parent ect
i suppose its easier with one though like my little one doesnt have anyone to copy kind of thing if that makes sense.


Maybeee you neeed a suuuper suuuper suuuuper nanny :p
I'll send my aunt round. She scares me and im 19 :| haha

i cant believe you made a post about how bad your kids are

This is called the RANT section of the boards- people are allowed to let their steam off here, why are you digging up old posts anyway?

selena has a right to rant too, dosen't she?